Dave Ramsey Cautious and Optimistic About Economy

ramseydavecover(March 11, 2010) Dave Ramsey moves into the 9 a.m. – noon slot at KFWB beginning Monday. His financial advice show brings practical solutions to complicated problems. He knows because he’s been there. He’s not pontificating from one of the mountaintops in Franklin, Tennessee, but he knows first-hand how to deal with the economic roller coast because he went broke twenty years ago and came back to create a media empire with 280 employees. “I was just doing my thing as a hard-driving A-type entrepreneur and I drove the car into a ditch,” he told me during a phone conversation yesterday.

Since his financial collapse two decades ago, Dave and his wife Sharon work closely together today on personal and professional matters. “After that crash we vowed to never be there again. She participates in all the major decisions. She’s not part of the day-to-day operations but before we make a decision to sign a book deal with a publisher or sign a contract with Fox Business network, Sharon meets the players. I trust her. She’s from the South like I am and so if she gets one of those feelings, then we don’t go there.”

ramseydavelaugh“Dave started the radio show, his books, and everything else we do from his personal problems with his finances when basically he lost everything,” explained Bill Hampton, vp of Dave Ramsey Radio, based in Nashville. “He decided he was going to figure out how this money stuff really works. He wanted to know what people with no hair and gray hair had to say about money. He didn’t want to know what the young and the rich had to say about money because he had been one of those and it didn’t work out so well. He wanted to talk with people who had money and kept it for awhile. As he did, he realized the principles that we teach today – get out of debt and live on less than you make. Basically everything we do delivers that message of giving people hope in the area of personal finances.”

Dave is very excited to be getting a prime daytime slot on KFWB. “This is a huge deal for us,” enthused Dave. “We’ve never been in that market on a good, quality station in a major daypart. This is a huge honor for us and to be the lead-in for an icon like Dr. Laura is very flattering. We’re just excited. We’ve had so much success around the country but have never had a chance to help people in Los Angeles.”

Ramsey’s empire goes far beyond his syndicated radio show that is heard on over 450 stations around the country. He has had a tv show on the Fox Business Network for almost three years, has authored three New York Times best-selling books and he has an active lecture schedule.

ramseydavestandingWhere does he find the time for research and to keep up with the ever-evolving economy and financial challenges? “Part of having a wonderful team here, they stay on top of everything. By having so many different divisions and departments working on different things, I’ve got people in the high school department sending me statistics, research and articles. I’ve got people on the military side sending me related information. We have a church division sending me stuff from the Christian perspective. My producer, Blake Thompson, has been with me for 13 years. I’ve always got a whole lot more to read than I can possibly get through and so many of the people who work here have been with me a long time and we kind of know where the other is going with just a look. That creates such a wonderful level of efficiency and synergy.”

Has Dave been able to avoid advertiser conflicts? He laughed. “I’m in radio. Of course I’ve had conflicts. We’ve always had to be very, very careful because money is such a sensitive issue. You can get labeled a shyster in that world faster than any other subject matter. With politics you can get away with all sorts of things with advertisers but when you start talking about money then all of a sudden people’s shields go up. For my brand to be trustworthy, we have to spend three or four times more energy on our advertiser relationships and selection process than other genres do.”

Dave confessed that he’s been burned both on the national and local level. “I’ve endorsed people that we had to pull the plug on because they weren’t taking care of business on the other end. Or they’ve gone broke and left customers standing out in the cold, which leaves egg on our faces. It is definitely painful when you spend a lot of effort, time, and energy and really, really want to do the right thing for the listener with an endorsement, and some screwball messes that up, it messes with you.”

Hampton tells a wonderful story about how he joined Ramsey 11 years ago and how he became the 15th team member. It provides some insight into how Dave has built his empire. Hampton was a concert promoter and moved to Nashville in 1995. “I had a U-Haul truck, $900 in car payments, moving into a $500 a month apartment trying to figure out why I’m broke. I’m flipping stations on the radio and I hear this guy and everything he said about money made sense to me. It was like a light bulb went off for the first time in my life. The first person I called when I got to Nashville was Dave Ramsey on the radio and asked him a question. He was local at the time. He taught a class in Nashville at Financial Peace University. He invited me out to the class and I got to know him over the years.”

Bill started living the principles he taught, became debt-free as a result and turned his financial life around. In early 1999, Ramsey called Hampton about leading his radio team. “I told him I don’t know how the signal gets from the studio to the car. I have no idea how radio works. I’ll never forget what he said. ‘Bill, I don’t want you to be a career radio guy. If you were, you wouldn’t believe we could accomplish what I’m about ready to accomplish.’ He was right. I called people then, like Randy Michaels that I would be nervous to call today, but I didn’t know who he was back then. Dave was absolutely right. I was a guy who believed in Dave because it worked for me.”

Andy Ludlum, pd at KFWB, is moving Ramsey to 9 a.m. on Monday. “When we had a recent event with him I was astounded by the huge amounts of debt some really young couples were trying to get out from under, some of it was college loans but a lot of it was from credit cards,” emailed Andy. “He's kind of the ‘Dr. Laura’ of the personal finance world, which is why I think this is a good fit for KFWB.

How does Dave see the financial future? Where have we been, where are we now, and what can we expect from his perspective? “Our listeners represent America and they have gone through the same emotions Americans have gone through in the last 18-24 months. There was this fear that came out of Wall Street and by the time it got to Washington, DC it was panic and when it hit the major media it was hysteria. And people got some of that on them. And others have had personal, real things happen to them like losing a job or they’re really upside down on their house and even people who are walking around just fine, they know someone who is upside down.”

Dave believes the fear has subsided. “Now it feels more like a healthy level of caution. I think there’s some wisdom that comes from pain and from doing stupid things that get you into a mess. I think people are cautious and in general, very optimistic, in fact, a whole lot more so than we hear in the major media. They know there are still some tough things to get through but I’ve seen a real sense of action and a sense of hope. I think the mass level of fear has subsided and now people are just being cautious and they’re being careful.”

Why Isn't Bill Handel's Morning Show Syndicated?

handelhand(March 10, 2010) A listener to the KFI morning show asked Bill Handel why his “Handel on the Law” was syndicated but his morning show was not. He provided some interesting insight during his show the other morning. “First of all, it is a very local show,” responded Bill. “Number two, when you syndicate a show you give up five commercials an hour to the syndication company. And morning shows are the last show that would ever be syndicated on a radio station. On stations that run syndicated shows, the vast majority of those will actually still keep a local morning radio show because the morning show makes so much money. They don’t want to give any of it up. Local shows generally do better than syndicated shows unless you have such a rotten local show that syndicated fare does better.”

Bill went on to say: “Nationwide a good local show will generate more money than a syndicated show. You can buy a national commercial on ‘Handel on the Law,’ which includes KFI, for less money than buying a commercial on KFI. That’s how important local programming is. The last show you’ll see syndicated is a morning show.”

Handel added that the last four times his contract has been up, he has been offered a syndicated show for mornings. “Then you have to deal with affiliates. If you’re in 100 markets you have to deal with 100 program directors. When we syndicated ‘Handel on the Law,’ the first thing we did was lose the Mormon station in Salt Lake City. In talking with the then-head of our syndication company, Kraig Kitchin, I asked if I could call the program director and apologize. He said, ‘What are you going to apologize for? Even if he says okay, next week you’re thrown off. He’s offended by the whole show.’”

Art Astor's Hurt Locker

kspalogo(March 9, 2010) Reminiscent of the recent Oscar race where the lowest grossing nominated film, The Hurt Locker, beat the highest grossing film, Avatar, for the Best Picture of 2009. Or biblically you could conjure up the story of David versus Goliath. Art Astor has AM properties in the Inland Empire and North San Diego County that need a big rock to knock out the giant clusters or at least stun them in the revenue race.

Enter Michael Horn, ceo and founder of Cable Radio Networks (CRN), who is helping Astor mount some formidable talkers to get KSPA (1510AM) and KFSD (1450AM) some attention against the big boys. “Southern California Talk” will debut next Monday with a return of some familiar names and the introduction of some new faces.

“Individually the AM stations have been very difficult to sell,” said Horn, who is acting as program director and sales consultant. “We plan to package Art’s two AM stations together along with the line-ups also being offered on one of our CRN Satellite channels. The three outlets should provide a strong sales story for local and national advertisers.”

KSPA kicks off at 3 a.m. next Monday morning with Mancow, who used to work morning drive on KLAC. At 6 a.m. Laura Ingraham will be heard live, giving Inland Empire listeners an opportunity to call in. From 9 a.m. – 11 a.m., ‘What’s Cooking Today,’ a lifestyle program hosted by Horn, Paul Stern, Jack Roberts and Erik Hines. Rotating guest hosts include Geoff Edwards and Gary Owens.

‘Talk Back’ will air from 11 a.m. to noon with Chuck Wilder, former co-host with George Putnam. Dr. Laura Schlessinger will air from noon to 3 p.m. followed by controversial Michael Savage in afternoon drive. Rusty Humphries, listed at #38 on the recent ‘Heavy Hundred” Talk Show round-up at TALKERS magazine takes on 6 p.m. – 9 p.m.

Following Rusty from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will be the PM Show with Horn and actor Robert Conrad. At 10 p.m., Doug McIntyre’s Red-Eye Radio will be heard live for four hours, followed by Barry Farber from 2 a.m. – 3 a.m.

“On the weekends we plan to feature some of Jeff Gehringer’s original programming,” said Horn. “The long-time operations director will be offering his most popular programs, many of which are currently on KSPA.”

Astor’s KFSD is scheduled to kick off the new talk format on March 15, but could be delayed a week or so due to some engineering issues. KFSD would simulcast the KSPA schedule but some shows are in conflict with talk shows already heard in San Diego.

The plan at KFSD is to kick off with the live broadcast of Doug Stephan from 3 a.m. – 7 a.m. followed by Dennis Miller live from 7 a.m. – 10 a.m. The “What’s Cookin Today’ Show will run from 10 a.m. – 11 a.m. with ‘Talk Back’ from 11 a.m. – noon. At noon, Lou Dobbs, ranked 9th on the TALKERS ‘Heavy Hundred’ list, returns to the Southland from noon – 3 p.m. Laura Ingraham will air in afternoon drive. From 6 p.m. to 3 a.m., KFSD will simulcast KSPA.

Both stations will feature CNN newscasts.

 

KOST Morning Show Producer Talks About Producing Top Morning Music Show

rodrigo10(March 8, 2010) As a listener, we hear the primary talent make reference to the producer all morning long. Many times these producers have goofy names like Baba-Booey for Howard Stern. His real name is actually Gary Del’Abate.

At KOST, we hear Mark Wallengren and Kristin Cruz (and before her, Kim Amidon) ask questions or make comments to Rodrigo (pictured with Roger Ebert). He is one of those unsung behind-the-scenes heroes who books talent, comes up with segment ideas, scours the Internet before daybreak for interesting topics, runs the control board, verifies that all commercials run at the assigned times, and basically keeps the mechanics of a morning show going. The talent certainly is the hood ornament of AM drive, but a strong producer can make the task run smoothly. They’ve got to maintain the quality of the show.

Rodrigo Hernandez takes pride in the quality of guests that he has booked in recent months – Meryl Streep, Bill Clinton and many of the Academy Award nominees. Rodrigo gives a lot of credit to Clear Channel talent booker, Amy Sugarman. “I don’t think the show gets the recognition that it should but as long as our listeners are there, that’s all that matters. One of our sales sheets has a woman doing yoga on the beach with a big, bold caption: SILENTLY DOMINATE. I thought that was pretty cool in the way it describes our show. Our target in the morning is Women 25-54 and we’ve constantly been in the Top 5 in that demographic.”

Rodrigo has been with the morning show in various capacities since 1994, starting out as a board op. His fascination with radio started, as with so many Los Angeles Radio People, in the bedroom. “I wasn’t really a school kind of guy,” said Rodrigo. “I found school tedious and boring and I was probably ADD. One day I’m listening to the radio flipping between Rick Dees (KIIS) and Jay Thomas (KPWR) and they sounded like they were having a blast. I guess that stuck unconsciously in the back of my head.”

After high school, Rodrigo started Rio Hondo College but he had very little interest in the curriculum. One day he turned on Howard Stern and there was an ad for the Academy of Radio Broadcasting. “I made the haul to Huntington Beach to see the facility, liked what I saw and noticed they had a job placement program after graduation. I enrolled and at the time of graduation, Jhani Kaye [then-KOST pd] had called the institute looking for a weekend board operator for KOST. I sent my resume, met Jhani, and got the job.”

One assignment led to another and the morning show needed someone to run the board when Mark & Kim were broadcasting on remotes. “And then an opportunity to become the assistant producer to the morning show came about. I went for it but I didn’t get it. Some gal named Stella Prado got the job.” (Stella is currently the program director for KOST.)

A few months later, the morning show producer, Julie Azeveda, left and Stella moved up and Rodrigo moved into the assistant role. “I learned so much in the early months and almost got fired because Mark & Kim didn’t like me because of my strange sense of humor, but eventually they used me on the radio to go out on stunts and it all seemed to work out.”

Rodrigo has a unique perspective on working with the original morning co-host Kim Amidon and current co-host Kristin Cruz. In one of the industry’s worst-kept secrets, Kim’s contract was not picked up in late 2007. After more than two decades with the morning show, suddenly she was gone and Mark Wallengren was going solo. The timing was ironic because just a few months before, Mark and Kim had received a “together” Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Then they were no longer “together.” Station management received an unprecedented flurry of emails and letters about losing Kim in the mornings.

“Mark was left as the bad guy,” said Rodrigo. “He had a hard time, too, with listeners saying he should have gone. People were really upset and Mark got the brunt of it. It was very hard for everyone to deal with this. And then when Kristin came it started all over again. She was like the other woman. Now people are more accepting of her.”

KOST waited a year before replacing the vacant spot with Kristin Cruz, who had been working in San Diego radio. “Kristin came in wide-eyed,” remembered Rodrigo. “I kind of felt sorry for her. She didn’t come in to fill Kim’s shoes because you can’t ever fill Kim’s shoes. Kristin is in her own shoes.”

Kim Amidon had already spent a number of years in morning drive by the time Rodrigo arrived. “Mark & Kim had already established a rhythm. They knew what each other was going to say. Kristin is very, very talented and a work in progress. She’s very funny but we’re still kind of finding ourselves. She’s caught on very fast; in fact, it is amazing how quickly she has caught on since coming on board. She’s off to a great start.”

At age 36, what’s next for the bachelor, Rodrigo? “I think we’re all program directors in one way or another. I have to admit that I have the desire to do programming in my system - maybe a little music directing first or even maybe talent. My job is to plan the show, but my own personal life is a mess. Professionally, a lot of people in radio are scared of the Internet, but I have friends in New York who listen every morning. I tend to look at the glass being half full so I’m anxious to see what comes my way.”

Internal Tsunami-Like Programming Changes at The WAVE

wave-header-logo(March 5, 2010) One of the most closely watched programming challenges in Los Angeles radio is happening over at 94.7, KTWV (“The WAVE”). Smooth Jazz stations have been disappearing all over the country but KTWV has been hanging in there and CBS Radio/LA marketing manager Ed Krampf has been very vocal about the fact that there would be no format change at KTWV.

But that doesn’t mean that KTWV won’t be tweaked. Enter Jhani Kaye, program director at K-EARTH. “There have been a number of conversations about whether I would take on other projects at some point. I would always tell Ed Krampf that when I make K-EARTH #1 12+ I’ll do the WAVE for you,” said Jhani. “Then in November when the numbers rolled out and K-EARTH was number one, I had committed myself.”

Was the potential to help a third Los Angeles station achieve #1 status any part of Jhani’s decision? “It would be delightful if we could but it is certainly not an expectation that has been placed on me. We’re just going to do the best we can to improve the numbers.”

kayejhani10Jhani (r) has been on the job for less than 100 days, so KTWV is in the early stages of evolving. What was the first thing he did as program director? “We tightened things up in terms of the production values of the radio station. We didn’t want songs to play all the way out to zero any longer. We started to tighten up the segues and we also injected a bit of energy into the air talent. They had been trained to pretty much announce in a laid-back style and I removed that restriction from them so that they can be bright, bouncy and upbeat.”

Musically, Jhani reduced the number of instrumentals by a couple per hour, “But we didn’t eliminate them so it is still a Smooth AC and we’ll continue to evolve it.”

“I’m a big believer that air talent should be live so we’re actually going the opposite way,” Jhani responded when asked about the current airstaff. “Keri Tombazian at night is now live. She’s no longer tracking for her entire shift. We’re moving in that direction with the other talent.”

The most recent PPM Weekly reflects the beginning of the evolution. Jhani sent a sample of numbers from the last Weekly along with a comment in parens:

6+
KTWV up 3.4 to 3.7 and ranks # 4 (Right behind sister KRTH)

12+
KTWV full week - 3.6 to 3.9 # 4 music!  (# 5 overall)
KTWV midday - 4.3 to 4.5 # 3
KTWV afternoon drive - 3.4 to 4.2  # 4

18+
KTWV   3.7 to 4.0  (# 4 music!  # 5 overall)

Men 18+
KTWV   2.8 to 3.3

Women 18+
KTWV  (Tied for # 4)

25-54
KTWV full week - 2.7 to 3.2
KTWV midday - 3.5 to 4.2 (Tied # 3 English)
KTWV afternoon drive - 2.5 to 3.2!
KTWV weekends - 2.2 to 3.0  (Excellent growth!)

35-64
KTWV full week - 4.3 to 5.0  # 3    (And The Wave’s trend here over the past several weeks is straight up:  2.8 – 3.3 – 3.8 – 4.3 – 5.0!)
KTWV morning drive - 3.5 to 3.7 (Tied with KIIS for # 4 English)
KTWV midday - 5.7 to 6.2 (# 1 in the city!)
KTWV afternoon drive - 4.3 to 5.5!  (Don Burns is tied for # 1 with KFI in this demo!)
KTWV nights - 3.5 to 4.0  # 2 music!

“It's nice to see the audience reacting so fast to our fine-tuning.  There's a lot more to come,” concluded Jhani.

 

A Conversation with Jim Svejda

svejdajimwestways(March 4, 2010) KUSC’s Jim Svejda (works evenings at the Classical station) is profiled in a full-page feature story in the current Westways Magazine.

Westways: Where did you first break into radio?
Svejda: In the early ‘70s, in Syracuse, the smallest town in America served by a full-time Classical station. I called the general manager, Henry Fogel, who later became head of the American Symphony Orchestra League, and said, ‘I don’t know anything about radio, but I do know a lot about music. Do you need any part-time announcers?’ He gave me a pronunciation test – two names, Aldo Ceccato and Stanislaw Skrowaczewski – and he hired me on the spot.

Westways: You went from Syracuse to Boston to San Francisco, then to Los Angeles in 1978. What was your image of Southern California before you came here?
Svejda: Shallow, superficial, people wouldn’t know a lot – and I was dead wrong. This is the most sophisticated audience anywhere. In the ‘30s and ‘40s, the European émigrés made L.A. the center of the Classical music world. Two of the greatest composers lived here: Arnold Schoenberg in Brentwood and Igor Stravinsky in Hollywood. Fleix Slatkin, the concertmaster of the Fox Studio Orchestra, and his wife, Eleanor, the principal cellist with the Warner Studio Orchestra, started the Hollywood String Quartet. It’s the greatest string quartet that’s ever made recordings, far and away. It’s like whoever is in second place may as well be in a different category. The greatest musicians on earth are playing in the Hollywood studios. It’s the most lucrative gig in Classical music. What you hear in movies is incredibly complex music, and these people sight-read it.

Westways: What do you listen to while you drive?
Svejda: That’s when I catch up on all the new music and music by composers I’m going to have on the show. That’s the nice thing about living in L.A. You get a lot of time in your car.

Westways Magazine is found at: aaa.com.

 

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